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losing to a gym leader
Frenchfry:
You keep saying harsh punishments, but, c'mon, there are ways to punish people without haxxing their pokemon. And as long as we're okay with doing things that could easily be considered unfair, why don't we make that punishment be that the words "Newfag loser" appear above their name until they beat the gym leader? And honestly, they DO deserve the same status as someone who beat the gym on try one, regardless of how many attempts it took them. Wanna know why? Because the second they beat that gym leader, they have made the very same accomplishment that the other guy did, albeit it took him longer.
Moreover, you can lose to a gym leader three times... without xp farming or being a 'loser'. It took me about four tries each game to beat the elite four, and PU is supposed to make the gym leaders much more challenging than anything from the handhelds.
And again, what is this gym leader, a secret member of team rocket? What business does he have, taking your pokemon?
...And even if this were implemented, it would be laughably easy to exploit. I normally only used three pokemon in the handhelds, which I pulled off by making them very different types and levelling them far beyond that particular zone's norm. That leaves three slots just for fillers, to save you the trouble of losing a rare pokemon you were in the process of training when you lost to the gym leader for the third time.
neokills:
losing your pokemon because you lost a battle??? come on are you being serious??? thats is the dumbest and most ridiculous thing i have ever heard, i for one am sure glad you are not making this game, or have any part in making this game. enough said...
LeoReborn:
--- Quote from: Unbreakable on July 20, 2010, 04:10:01 AM ---
--- Quote from: ghostman50 on July 20, 2010, 02:24:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: Marissa on July 20, 2010, 02:04:07 AM --- I would hate to lose my starter. And what would determine what your weakest Pokemon is?
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Lowest level and least number of attacks can determine what the weakest is.
Losing pokemon would only be a penalty for losing 3 times and that is fairly reasonable. Anyone losing to a gym leader (knowing they may not win), deserves to have something of value lost.
The handhelds were made easy because the Gym leaders are the one's giving the badges and exp, the TM/HMs, etc while the gym leader have absolutely nothing to gain in a win.
Adding penalties like this would keep the players, abusing the power lvling technique, honest and weed out the losers.
PLus, if you lose 3 times to the same gym leader, it is fairly obvious that the weakess pokemon in your team is the weakes link. Why keep?
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Even So, That goes Against everything Pokemon Stands for, If you lose a Pokemon like that youre losing a friend, even if they are weak.
I say No.
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^^^^This is what I said earlier, If it needs to be repeated again, so be it, but Im warning you I may get pushy in trying to defend It.
I agree with Frenchfry, Public humiliation is acceptable.
ghostman50:
--- Quote from: neokills on July 20, 2010, 09:27:32 AM ---losing your pokemon because you lost a battle??? come on are you being serious??? thats is the dumbest and most ridiculous thing i have ever heard, i for one am sure glad you are not making this game, or have any part in making this game. enough said...
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The dumbest and most ridiculous.. really?... It's only dumb to you because you and everyone else is so used to being able to parade through a game without consequence, one little obstacle that doesnt appear in the handhelds is automatically assumed as dumb, may want to stop crying and learn to adapt (an overture to evolution, mind you).
If pokemon were real, no gym leader would ever have the patience to seriously battle the same loser 20 times. (am I right?) Something would have to be lost (Im also aware that poke's arent real). And dead weight (ex. lvl 8 paras) seems about right.
Im fairly sure the loss of poke's wont be implemented but it's obvious that that something needs to be lost.
Heck, most gym badges in the handhelds are worth more than some of the weak a$$ poke's out there.
And as I said before, stop crying. It's only a suggestion.
And as I've said many times before, if your poke's were worth half a crap, it wouldnt take as many attempts to battle in the first place. It's an easy concept, dont make 20 attempts to defeat a gym leader, if you do... you may lose the dead weight in your team.
I dont get how that is dumb at all. tbh.
Is it because you didnt think of it? Is it because it's different? Is it because you planned to power level and losing (dead weight) poke's would interfere? Is it because losing poke's has never been a consequence ever in the history of pokemon?
This is an MMO after all.
I'd seriously like to hear how it is dumb...
It is certainly more effective than,
"hey.... you have to wait 20 minutes because you've already lost to me 11 times earlier today without any signs of improvement."
ghostman50:
--- Quote from: Frenchfry545 on July 20, 2010, 04:52:58 AM ---You keep saying harsh punishments, but, c'mon, there are ways to punish people without haxxing their pokemon. And as long as we're okay with doing things that could easily be considered unfair, why don't we make that punishment be that the words "Newfag loser" appear above their name until they beat the gym leader?
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lol, if they are spending all of their time in the gym battling and re-battling.. no one's gonna ever notice. PLus, that isnt humiliating at all. Some may even strive for "Newfag loser" status for the lulz.
If they are exploiting the system by power leveling, they arnt going to care what's placed over their heads when they are gaining insane levels.
--- Quote from: Frenchfry545 on July 20, 2010, 04:52:58 AM ---
And honestly, they DO deserve the same status as someone who beat the gym on try one, regardless of how many attempts it took them. Wanna know why? Because the second they beat that gym leader, they have made the very same accomplishment that the other guy did, albeit it took him longer.
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That is just like saying that a person who works and goes to school all through his/her life and becomes an entreprenuer to finally become a millionaire (the player defeating the Gym leader with little effort) is at the same level as a homeless drunk meth-head, that dropped out of highschool, that wins the lottery (the player that takes a little longer to get to his million dollar goal, but FINALLY gets it.)
Yea, they both have a million dollars, but seriously, are they really on the same level? Will they ever really be on the same level? seriously?>
--- Quote from: Frenchfry545 on July 20, 2010, 04:52:58 AM ---Moreover, you can lose to a gym leader three times... without xp farming or being a 'loser'.
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Never mentioned the farming of exp. Only poke's
--- Quote from: Frenchfry545 on July 20, 2010, 04:52:58 AM --- It took me about four tries each game to beat the elite four, and PU is supposed to make the gym leaders much more challenging than anything from the handhelds.
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I was only talking about gym leaders. I understand how difficult it is to defeat the elite. Hell, it's in their name. But Fisherman Barneypants (the water gym leader) doesnt seem to be a member of the elite.
--- Quote from: Frenchfry545 on July 20, 2010, 04:52:58 AM ---
And again, what is this gym leader, a secret member of team rocket? What business does he have, taking your pokemon?
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Not a member of team rocket, but a member of the pokemon league commision (PLC).
Example to help you all understand mi pointo, Try teaching the piano to a 30 year old guy wiht no sense of rhythm, timing, or talent whatsoever. Everyday, coming in just as bad as he was the day before. Are you going to quit tutoring him because he's bad? NO. because he's paying your bills. Why stop?
Will you continue to charge him (or charge him even more) even though he'll never get better? Probably.
Continuing to charge this guy, that is the toll for wasting time and effort.
Same concept for gym leaders.
WHich is, as said before, fairly reasonable.
--- Quote from: Frenchfry545 on July 20, 2010, 04:52:58 AM ---
...And even if this were implemented, it would be laughably easy to exploit. I normally only used three pokemon in the handhelds, which I pulled off by making them very different types and levelling them far beyond that particular zone's norm. That leaves three slots just for fillers, to save you the trouble of losing a rare pokemon you were in the process of training when you lost to the gym leader for the third time.
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Never said rarest, only the weakest (PLease dont twist the text.) But if your weakest just happened to be rare, oops. :'( .
The suggestion suggests that the weakest in one's party be taken. I'd imagine a part of 3 still equals a party. :-\
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