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Corsola - With help from Level5Pidgy
« on: September 11, 2010, 05:23:11 AM »
Corsola
Water/Rock
NU
Below average stats, typing that pretty much nullifies ability to tank.
Stealth Rock was never a major factor for Corsola. It takes 12.5% health, which is 1x effective stealth rock. Corsola was never not used because of it weakness or used specifically because it resisted stealth rock. So the removal of stealth rock won't change Corsola effectiveness.

Buff
Made two changes. One set changes just the stats of Corsola, while the other changes its abilities and its stats. Is it a change to stats? To abilities? To Movesets? Explain it in a sentence or two.

Old Stats:
HP: 55
Atk: 55
Def: 85
SpA: 65
SpD: 85
Spe: 35
So here are some damage calculations for Corsola before and after the stat changes.


ALL SETS ARE MAX EVS, IVs, AND NATURES BOTH ATTACK AND DEFENSE
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Old Stats
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Ampharos
Round 1 - Thunder

Damage Results OHKO & 2HKO Odds
  Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 318 344 374 OHKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
Percentages: 101.27% 109.55% 119.11% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

Round 2 - Thunderbolt
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 252 272 296 OHKO: 0.00%   0.00%    2.56%    46.15%      46.15%
Percentages: 80.25% 86.62% 94.27% 2HKO: 100.00%   100.00%    100.00%    100.00%     100.00%
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Primeape  Close Combat
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 296 320 350 OHKO: 66.67% 66.67% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
Percentages: 94.27% 101.91% 111.46% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
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Kingler Crabhammer
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 195 210 229 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 62.10% 66.88% 72.93% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

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Nidoking Earthquake
         Min:   Avg:   Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage:    228    246    270  OHKO: 0.00%   0.00%      0.00%      0.00%         0.00%
Percentages: 72.61% 78.34% 85.99% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00%    100.00%    100.00%       100.00%
 
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Blaziken Superpower
             Min:   Avg:     Max:  Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage:    326    354      386   OHKO: 100.00% 100.00%    100.00%    100.00%      100.00%
Percentages: 103.82% 112.74% 122.93% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00%    100.00%    100.00%      100.00%

No need to test life orb!
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Milotic Surf
       Min:   Avg:   Max:       Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage:    114    123    135  OHKO: 0.00%   0.00%      0.00%      0.00%         0.00%
Percentages: 36.31% 39.17% 42.99% 2HKO: 0.00%   0.00%      0.00%      0.00%         0.00%
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Venasaur Energy Ball
       Min:    Avg:    Max:        Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage:    384     412     456   OHKO: 100.00% 100.00%    100.00%    100.00%       100.00%
Percentages: 122.29% 131.21% 145.22% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00%    100.00%    100.00%       100.00%

Seed Bomb
        Min:    Avg:     Max:        Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage:   336     364      400   OHKO: 100.00%  100.00%    100.00%     100.00%      100.00%
Percentages: 107.01% 115.92% 127.39% 2HKO: 100.00%  100.00%    100.00%     100.00%      100.00%

No reason to test life orb.
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Corsola New Stats!!!

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Ampharos

Thunderbolt
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 218 236 258 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00%         0.00%         0.00%         0.00%
Percentages: 59.89% 64.84% 70.88% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

Thunder
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 100 108 118 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 27.47% 29.67% 32.42% 2HKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
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Milotic

Surf
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 100 108 118 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 27.47% 29.67% 32.42% 2HKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%

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Venasaur

Energy Ball
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 336 364 400 OHKO: 53.85% 53.85% 87.18% 100.00% 100.00%
Percentages: 92.31% 100.00% 109.89% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

Seed Bomb
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 288 312 340 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 33.33% 33.33%
Percentages: 79.12% 85.71% 93.41% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
*Life Orb*

Energy Ball
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 436 480 520 OHKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
Percentages: 119.78% 131.87% 142.86% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

Seed Bomb
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 372 408 444 OHKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
Percentages: 102.20% 112.09% 121.98% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

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Primape Close Combat
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 252 272 296 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 69.23% 74.73% 81.32% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

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Kinglar Crabhammer
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 109 120 130 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 29.95% 32.97% 35.71% 2HKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%

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Nidoking Earthquake
  Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 192 206 228 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 52.75% 56.59% 62.64% 2HKO: 100.00% 99.41% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
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Blaziken Superpower
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 276 300 326 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 7.69% 7.69%
Percentages: 75.82% 82.42% 89.56% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
*This holds true even with the -1 stage of atk on

Life Orb
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 356 386 422 OHKO: 87.18% 87.18% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
Percentages: 97.80% 106.04% 115.93% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
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SOLID ROCK STATS!!!!!!!!!!

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Amphraos
 
Thunderbolt
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 172 186 204 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 48.59% 52.54% 57.63% 2HKO: 93.23% 44.18% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

Thunder

Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 217 235 258 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 61.30% 66.38% 72.88% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
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Milotic Surf
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 105 114 124 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 29.66% 32.20% 35.03% 2HKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
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Venasaur

Energy Ball
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 264 288 315 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 2.56% 2.56%
Percentages: 74.58% 81.36% 88.98% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

Seed Bomb
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 225 243 264 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 63.56% 68.64% 74.58% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

*Life Orb
Energy Ball
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 345 372 408 OHKO: 87.18% 87.18% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
Percentages: 97.46% 105.08% 115.25% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

Seed Bomb
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 273 297 324 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 15.38% 15.38%
Percentages: 77.12% 83.90% 91.53% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
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Blaziken Superpower
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 213 231 252 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 60.17% 65.25% 71.19% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
*Life Orb
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 276 298 325 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 28.21% 28.21%
Percentages: 77.97% 84.18% 91.81% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
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Nidoking Earthquake
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 193 208 229 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 54.52% 58.76% 64.69% 2HKO: 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%
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Kingler Crabhammer
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 109 118 129 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 30.79% 33.33% 36.44% 2HKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
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Primeape Close Combat
Min: Avg: Max: Normal: Leftovers: Sandstorm: Stealth Rock: SR + Leftovers
Raw Damage: 186 202 220 OHKO: 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Percentages: 52.54% 57.06% 62.15% 2HKO: 100.00% 98.62% 100.00% 100.00% 100.00%

Proposed Stats: - Stat Change 1
HP: 80 (+25)
Atk: 80 (+25)
Def: 110(+25)
SpA:70 (+5)
SpD: 105 (+20)
Spe: 50(+15)

Reasons for Stat Changes:
HP: Increased HP to compete with heavy attacking wall breakers.
Atk: Increased attack to fully utilize the hustle ability, so Corsola isn't forced into being a wall
Def: Same as HP, increased to  help survivability.
SpA: Increased to allow all of Corsola's move to be used with some proficiency, and like Atk this makes it so Corsola isn't forced into being a wall.
SpD: Increased to improve survivability.
Spe: Increased to raise the number of pokemon Corsola can get the first strike on.

Proposed Stats:
HP: 75 (+20)     Solid Rock Stats
Atk: 80 (+25)
Def: 105 (+20)
SpA: 70 (+5)
SpD: 97 (+12)
Spe: 50

Reasons for Stat Changes:
HP: Increased from original stats but lowered from edited to be more balanced considering the newly added ability.
Atk: ncreased attack to fully utilize the hustle ability, so Corsola isn't forced into being a wall. 
Def: Same as HP
SpA: Increased to allow all of Corsola's move to be used with some proficiency, and like Atk this makes it so Corsola isn't forced into being a wall
SpD: Same as HP
Spe: Increased to raise the number of pokemon Corsola can get the first strike on.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2010, 06:21:57 AM by Gold »
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Re: Corsola - With help from Level5Pidgy
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2010, 02:38:15 PM »
Why does thunder no longer have the abiity to kill a corsola? It can't even 2HKO it now, but a thunderbolt can.
Other than that, you have improved greatly since, what was it. Banette? yeah.
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Re: Corsola - With help from Level5Pidgy
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 03:11:42 PM »
Quote from: Trainer Silver on September 11, 2010, 02:38:15 PM
Why does thunder no longer have the abiity to kill a corsola? It can't even 2HKO it now, but a thunderbolt can.
Other than that, you have improved greatly since, what was it. Banette? yeah.

He may have mixed up those 2 moves.
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Re: Corsola - With help from Level5Pidgy
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 02:43:38 AM »
Probably sorry about that.
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