New Bill in the states censors the internet!?

[Bing]

Just wondering if anyone saw this or not yet.  It's a new bill in the states to crack down on Internet Piracy.  Basically from what I understand, there is no longer a court order needed to shut down a website.  Just an accusation.  (I could be wrong as I just read it quickly)

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/112%20HR%203261.pdf


And this is a blog post about it.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111110/16032716714/can-defenders-sopa-explain-how-you-define-taking-deliberate-action-to-avoid-taking-action.shtml

[Kamaran]

it's 01:00 and there are 78 pages
I'll read it some other time.

[Silver]

They've tried this crap before. The US thinks they have power where they really don't.
Go to ThePirateBay sometime and read some of the C&Ds they get. A really good documentary on the subject of copyright and piracy is called Rip: A Remix Manifesto
Its a good watch, a good informer on some of the things you can and cannot do.
I'm pretty sure this can be breaking a couple of things in your consitution, you know, that thing you have that says you can't be accused without a valid reason, free speech, privacy and all that other fun stuff.

I'll be severly dissapointed wit your country if this pulls through, because that means that your politicians just kind of threw your basic rights as an individual out the window for capitalism.

[Simulacrum]

They've tried this crap before. The US thinks they have power where they really don't.
Go to ThePirateBay sometime and read some of the C&Ds they get. A really good documentary on the subject of copyright and piracy is called Rip: A Remix Manifesto
Its a good watch, a good informer on some of the things you can and cannot do.
I'm pretty sure this can be breaking a couple of things in your consitution, you know, that thing you have that says you can't be accused without a valid reason, free speech, privacy and all that other fun stuff.

I'll be severly dissapointed wit your country if this pulls through, because that means that your politicians just kind of threw your basic rights as an individual out the window for capitalism.

Most of our politicians are really stupid *cough*Obama*cough*, so don't be too surprised if it happens.

[Bing]

Ok, let's get serious here.  Obama is not a problem.  If you think that then... You're lost.  I bet you'd vote for Perry, who want's to do away with education, commerce and oh wait.... He can't remember the Third.  Or maybe you'd vote for the sex abuser.  Herman Cain I believe.

Am I right?

Edit: My bad on the political outburst.  It's just... Ah chansey it.

[Simulacrum]

Ok, let's get serious here.  Obama is not a problem.  If you think that then... You're lost.  I bet you'd vote for Perry, who want's to do away with education, commerce and oh wait.... He can't remember the Third.  Or maybe you'd vote for the sex abuser.  Herman Cain I believe.

Am I right?

Edit: My bad on the political outburst.  It's just... Ah chansey it.

No, I wouldn't vote for Perry. I would list the reasons why Obama is a problem, but I would end up typing a huge post ranting about him XD. But seriously, if you want me to list some reasons, I will.

[Kamaran]

Post it

[Bing]

Not really.  I posted this more to discuss the new bill.  Rather than start what will eventually lead to a flame war.

[Mr. Fox]

I personally think we should fire all of them, eliminate the pay for their positions then hold the elections. That way they know they are in it for the country, not the money.

[Bing]

I personally think we should fire all of them, eliminate the pay for their positions then hold the elections. That way they know they are in it for the country, not the money.

Ok, well the problem with that is this.  The things they are (supposed) to do take a lot of time.  You couldn't have a second job and hold office.  That would lead to the super rich running because they can afford to not make money for a few years.  This would put the 1% we hate so much in charge.

[Mr. Fox]

while they are in office they have every thing taken care of for them by us the tax payers.

[Monzta]

tl;dr

inb4 political war

[Bing]

while they are in office they have every thing taken care of for them by us the tax payers.

Well I agree they should be paid less.  I also agree that a vast majority of them don't care.

I also think they shouldn't be allowed to give themselves bonuses and then take money away from schools crying that the debt is to high. 

[Declan_23]

I'm glad I don't live in America, because English MPs are so honest. Wait... what?

[Simulacrum]

 Here's a list of 5 dumb things Obama has done(These are in no specific order, I just listed them as I thought of them):

1. The Stimulus Package:

  This Stimulus Package is basically a warmed-over New Deal(as far as I can tell anyway.) The Government it spending $80.9 billion on things like highways, bridges, removing lead paint from  public housing, electric vehicle technology, green energy technology, and more. There's even a $650 million being spent on DTV conversion coupons.

  Congressmen were forced to vote on it without even getting to read it. This is just more government funding for government projects. The Democratic Congress is spending tax-payer's money on projects to advance their own agendas. Remember in the presidential debates when McCain attacked Obama for his wasteful spending, and what Obama said? He promised over and over again that he would "go through those bills line by line." This is a bill that he should have gone through completely, and he signed it into law without even crossing anything out. Either he was stupid enough to pass the law after he read it, or he didn't read it through. Didn't he say that he would go through bills and get rid of any unnecessary spending the bill would cause? Seriously, how are DTV conversion coupons going to stimulate the economy?

  This method of boosting the economy has already been tested, and it failed.

“We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work.” - Henry Morgenthau Jr., secretary of the Treasury to FDR

“I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot!”

  If it didn't work then, why would it work now?

2. Throwing Weekly White House Parties

While Obama is spreading doom and gloom about the economic disasters supposedly created by Bush, he’s partying like it’s 1999. Between the Stevie Wonder concerts and the $100 per pound steaks, he's sure making a pig out of himself with our tax money. With Obama going wild with his parties, and spending more on the food for one meal than some Americans make in a month, does he really have any right to condemn corporations like Honeywell for buying private jets (which, by the way, aren’t just for luxury’s sake.)?

3. Obama's Housing Relief Plan(I haven't had the opportunity to read this bill, this is just what I've heard. But from what I understand, it says something like this)

  If you’re paying too much on your mortgage, the government will help you. If you can work with your bank to get your mortgage payment down to 35% of your annual income, then the government will match your bank dollar for dollar in getting your monthly payment down to only 30% of your income.

  Not only is this plan totally stupid, but it’s basically back-door socialism. Do people who went out and got mortgages that they couldn't afford to buy houses beyond their means deserve to have the government pay their bills? What about the people who bought the smaller, cheaper house on the bad side of town, which they could actually afford? Why should the government reward irresponsible people and punish people who bought the house they could actually afford?

(I will edit this and include the last ones later, I don't have time to finish it right now.)

(I used multiple sources for my ideas, not to copy everything they said, but so that I wasn't misunderstood, or because I didn't know how I wanted to say it. They are my thoughts, and I did come up with the list before I found these sources)