Your Starter Pokemon

[Frenchfry]

Well that is pretty much how I use pokemon I give HMs to. I rarely use them in battle, except to take a hit for when I want to switch pokemon without letting the enemy get a free hit on my more important team member. I think utility is less demeaning than slave, but it may still be a little demeaning.

Ahem...
"Saraptor used FLY!"
"Swampert used headbutt! The attack missed!"
"Staraptor used FLY!"
"Swampert fainted!"
Not all HMs are battle-useless. Fly is among my favorite attacks.

[Troposph3r3]

it would have to be torchic for me cause it turns into blaziken and I love fire types.

[Chad29]

No they aren't all bad. Just some like cut and rock smash that are only useful in the early game. rock climb is pretty weak as well.

I would actually count Fly as one of the bad ones because the extra turn could be used to freely switch to another pokemon that resists fly, or use a move like dig, dive, or protect.

[Frenchfry]

What pokemon resits fly?
Anyway... fly is best if your pokemon attacks first. That way, the can't use the chance to dive or dig. And if they use protect, just rinse and repeat. Fly has a higher pp then protect.

[Chad29]

Rock, steel, and electric types resist fly.

[Frenchfry]

Rock, steel, and electric types resist fly.

Okay, but its not like they're immune to it. Besides, even if it loses half its power, fly is a strong attack. Like solar beam. Solar beam could pwn almost any fire types, so it doesn't matter if they switch pokemans.

[Chad29]

We're all entitled to our opinions, I suppose.

[xhizor8201]

Ima stick with piplup if available.

[LeoReborn]

Rock, steel, and electric types resist fly.

and Moves like Twister, Gust, They do 2x Damage on Flyers, (I think certain Elec moves do too.)

[Frenchfry]

and Moves like Twister, Gust, They do 2x Damage on Flyers, (I think certain Elec moves do too.)

I dunno about that electric thing, but in order to use that x2 factor effectively, you would have to somehow *know* that the other guy was about to use fly.

[LeoReborn]

You Dont have to know, Youre just as likely to have: Twister v. Fly, as: Earthquake v. Dig.


Back on topic plz.

[Frenchfry]

You Dont have to know, Youre just as likely to have: Twister v. Fly, as: Earthquake v. Dig.

TL;DR:

effectively

...Yeah, the chances are just about the same: slim. It's all in luck, which means that if the pokemon using fly is the faster one, there's no 'tactic' against fly. Just the chance that you got lucky, just like you have to hope an attack misses.

[LeoReborn]

Yep

[S]

I've always picked a fire starter pokemon mainly due to their rarity in the beginning of the game. But when this game comes out it will be Bulbasaur mainly because it was my FIRST mon ever. And plus, doesn't it just look fat and lazy as Venusaur? Feckin awesome.

[Dillon]

Ive gotta go with charmander hes just so awesome and cute and then when hes a charizard he rocks and hes an original first season starter