I only know of two ways to get access to the thieves guild (there may be more), so I can only tell you what I know. Seeing as I can't just peer into your game. The first is through talking with the guards, random people, posters, etc. until you get the option to ask about 'Gray Fox' in conversation.

Go talk to a beggar somewhere in the city. The poor people. They should tell you exactly where to go in order to join. If that's not available, you can always just go wait down by the Waterfront. At midnight every night the initiator shows up. He's in the.... Garden of Doleroth, iirc. I could never quite get the name right. The guys name is Armand, or something. He'll be your first Doyen, or lieutenant.

Vivaldi - Four Seasons (Winter) in my pants...

I'd rock so hard at this game if I weren't listening to classical music right now.

I shall make a guild and it shall be the greatest guild to beheld in all of time and Pokedom.

It will be called "" and doesn't afraid of nothing.

Dragonite has good Extremespeed sets.

Can't forget Super Power; one of the reasons I've always preferred Dragonite to 'mence anyway, obvious aesthetic reasons aside.

328 Atk vs 190 Def & 303 HP (100 Base Power): 372 - 440 (122.77% - 145.21%)

It's a guaranteed OHKO, even if Flygon hits the bottom portion of the RNG and deals as little damage as possible.

omg lucario yes ban him from OU lol.

Hey any1 still play shoddy battle? if ya do hit me up on PokemonGTS, thats where i normally battle. My name is Jadorel there

Once we get a Shoddy Server up and running with the planned changed for PU, you can just hit us up there, and test out the changes with us.

Hrolfming - Dwarf Hunter

^^^^^
I think this is productive enough to count as revival.

Anyway, I like the Playstation in general just because of the exclusive games. Disgaea, as far as I know, has been faithful to Playstation, save for AoD on the DS. Metal Gears 1 and 3 are PS and PS2 exclusive, and MGS3 was 100% wincest. Littlebigplanet, undebatably, is awesome. Halo and Gears of War are nice, but they can't compare to MGS, LBP, Disgaea, and the upcoming Journey.

Aside from that, Xbox looks like a Wii that forgot to diet, and has a huge lack of Blu-Ray. PS3 is not only a Blu-Ray player, but it is the BEST Blu-Ray DVD player in the world, and thus, the best DVD player. In fact, the slogan of the PS3, "It only does Everything", is completely true. Hell,  bet they're gonna come out with downloadable content that allows your PS3 to turn into an Autobot in a year or two.

I have both. So, my opinion is about as unbiased as it gets.

PS3: What is not to say? I loved my PS2. I owned more games for it, and the PS1, than I still do for most of my other consoles. (Lately, I must say that I really only play my PS3 for those older titles.) Now, pro's have been listed left and right. You even gave a few FrenchFry, so I think I will just go and list some of the con's for both systems.

- Horrible online experience. (May be an exaggeration, but it is comparitively bad. This is also intended for non-plus service.) Mind you: this is not intended for online play or games. It is for PSNetwork as a whole and service. So put your complaints about 'Killzune 2 multplaya rawks!' on the back burner.

For online use, I much prefer the Xbox 360. It's quick, efficient, easy to get into. (There slogan should have been, 'It can't do everything, but a four year old can figure it out.') I can find most things in a few seconds of looking for it, it has no known issues preventing it from being accessed and used to the fullest, and has a huge selection to work from. In short, you get what you pay for. It may be a case of P2P, but you are definitely not left wanting afterwards.

I wish I could say the same for the PS3. Network is ok, by any stretch of the imagination, but it's not fun to just browse around the 'market place' like one can do on the 360. It's actually a lot slower than I expected. (Download wise) It seems to take far, far longer to download anything on the PS3 than it does on the 360. Other than a weird interface, I can not say they are doing much wrong. It's about as average as it can get, without a comparison. But, as I said, if you compare it's running with that of the 360's, it gets worse.

- Game Selection: a lot of people say that this is a non issue. (Both consoles have a lot of exclusives!) Well, it's a tie here for me. PS3 has very, very few games I enjoy playing. Mostly RPG's, Ratchet and Clank, and things such as Killzone 2. Outside of that, I really don't enjoy much of what comes out for it.

Countering that, the Xbox 360 has a veritable slew of crappy games. Most of them are odd hybrids for what could pass for Wii games or just not fun at all. But, it also has more 'fun' titles for me than what I find on the PS3. (Non-exclusives. If I have the choice, I usually go for the 360 version of a title.) Titles such as Too Human, Lost Odyssey, Forza.

But, I digress. Like I said in the beginning, I own both. I enjoy both. Neither is better than the other. They have their pro's and con's and it really comes down to which one you feel more comfortable playing.

(As a bonus, PS3 gets MGS. So, hugemassiveoverinflated brownie points of +4 death.)