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Offline Chad29

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #195 on: November 11, 2010, 10:41:23 PM »
It can do both. Sweep and tank.

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #196 on: November 11, 2010, 10:47:22 PM »
For me i use Empolion as a special sweeper: Surf, Grass Knot, Ice Beam, and Flash Cannon
think i'm using this one.
Thanks alot
« Last Edit: November 11, 2010, 10:50:46 PM by zylonnick »

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #197 on: November 11, 2010, 10:54:39 PM »
For me i use Empolion as a special sweeper: Surf, Grass Knot, Ice Beam, and Flash Cannon
think i'm using this one.
Thanks alot
Good Choice, this set up has never disappointed for me, just focus your ev training on sp. attack and speed.

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #198 on: November 11, 2010, 11:01:00 PM »
For me i use Empolion as a special sweeper: Surf, Grass Knot, Ice Beam, and Flash Cannon

My empoleon knows the exact same moves except for grass knot. I still havent decided between drill peck or earthquake. The only reason I havent gone with earthquake is because I was fighting a shedinja and all I had was my empoleon so im very glad I kept drill peck.

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #199 on: November 11, 2010, 11:03:22 PM »
usually i have a pokemon that can hit shedinja either super effectively or with a stat condition, so i have never had to worry about that!
By the way can you guys tell me what you think of my new team move set?
Kingdra: Ability: Timid Moves: Hydro Pump, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Agility; Ability: Sniper; Hold Item: Scope Lens
Sazandora: Nature: Modest; Moves: Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Charge Beam, Surf; Ability: Levitate; Hold Item: Wise Glasses
Garchomp: Nature: Jolly; Moves: Dragon Rush, Earthquake, Fire Fang, Shadow Claw; Ability: Rough Skin; Hold Item: Yache Berry
Ononokus: Nature: Adamant; Moves: Earthquake, Outrage, Dragon Dance, Rock Slide; Ability: Mold Breaker; Hold Item: Persim Berry
Crimgan: Nature: Adamant; moves: Dragon Claw, Shadow Claw, Claw Sharpen, Superpower; Ability: Encourage; Hold Item: Muscle Band
Dragonite: Ability: Jolly; moves: Dragon Dance, Thunder Punch, Outrage, Fire Punch; Ability: Multiscale; Hold Item: Persim Berry
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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #200 on: November 11, 2010, 11:23:04 PM »
I noticed Ghost might be taken, so I also have an ice team:

Abomasnow (always sent out first to get the Hail going):
Ice Shard, Earthquake
Leech Seed, Substitute

Glaceon:
Ice Beam, Shadow Ball
Fake Tears, Wish

Lapras:
Surf, Blizzard
Thunderbolt, Toxic

Mamoswine:
Earthquake, Ice Shard
Stone Edge, Stealth Rock

Froslass:
Shadow Ball, Blizzard
Thunder Wave, Substitute

(Weavile:
Ice Shard, Night Slash
Aerial Ace, Swords Dance

OR

Walrein:
Surf, Toxic
Substitute, Protect)


NOTE: If JohnnyXtreme is not the Ghost type trainer then I would still like my ghost team which I submitted on page 13 to be my 'official' application. If JohnnyXtreme turns out to be the ghost type trainer I would like this ice team to be my application. I hope that was understandable. xD
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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #201 on: November 11, 2010, 11:41:07 PM »
Well you can drop stealth rock because it won't be in the MMO. I've never seen a Weavile with pursuit.

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #202 on: November 11, 2010, 11:41:37 PM »
For me i use Empolion as a special sweeper: Surf, Grass Knot, Ice Beam, and Flash Cannon
think i'm using this one.
Thanks alot
Good Choice, this set up has never disappointed for me, just focus your ev training on sp. attack and speed.

There isnt going to be EVs in PU

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #203 on: November 11, 2010, 11:47:10 PM »
For me i use Empolion as a special sweeper: Surf, Grass Knot, Ice Beam, and Flash Cannon
think i'm using this one.
Thanks alot
Good Choice, this set up has never disappointed for me, just focus your ev training on sp. attack and speed.

There isnt going to be EVs in PU
Opps now i feel stupid! anyway I didn't know.

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #204 on: November 12, 2010, 12:33:16 AM »
I noticed Ghost might be taken, so I also have an ice team:

NOTE: If JohnnyXtreme is not the Ghost type trainer then I would still like my ghost team which I submitted on page 13 to be my 'official' application. If JohnnyXtreme turns out to be the ghost type trainer I would like this ice team to be my application. I hope that was understandable. xD

You both can be Ghost trainers. We will hold a Guild only turny to decide who the leaders of each type will be. But you both can be ghost trainers if you like them more then ice. :)
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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #205 on: November 12, 2010, 03:57:57 AM »
I noticed Ghost might be taken, so I also have an ice team:

Abomasnow (always sent out first to get the Hail going):
Ice Shard, Earthquake
Leech Seed, Substitute

Glaceon:
Ice Beam, Shadow Ball
Fake Tears, Wish

Lapras:
Surf, Blizzard
Thunderbolt, Toxic

Mamoswine:
Earthquake, Ice Shard
Stone Edge, Stealth Rock

Froslass:
Shadow Ball, Blizzard
Thunder Wave, Substitute

(Weavile:
Ice Shard, Night Slash
Aerial Ace, Swords Dance

OR

Walrein:
Surf, Toxic
Substitute, Protect)


NOTE: If JohnnyXtreme is not the Ghost type trainer then I would still like my ghost team which I submitted on page 13 to be my 'official' application. If JohnnyXtreme turns out to be the ghost type trainer I would like this ice team to be my application. I hope that was understandable. xD
If you do go ice take Walrein, Weavile has a double weakness to Fight witch could cripple your team.

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #206 on: November 12, 2010, 04:40:00 AM »
I don't know. Weavile is one of the best sweepers in the game, and would make a good late match sweeper if not the lead. You might replace Lapras with Walrein, since they're the same type. Thick Fat would make it useful against fire types. Froslass can hopefully handle fighting types. Mamoswine for rock. Seems like the weaknesses are covered pretty well.

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #207 on: November 12, 2010, 05:00:40 AM »
I don't know. Weavile is one of the best sweepers in the game, and would make a good late match sweeper if not the lead. You might replace Lapras with Walrein, since they're the same type. Thick Fat would make it useful against fire types. Froslass can hopefully handle fighting types. Mamoswine for rock. Seems like the weaknesses are covered pretty well.
yeah... just noticed that myself. that could work.

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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #208 on: November 12, 2010, 12:06:12 PM »
There is gonna be a talent tree or something, right? I was thinking of improving some necessary skills (if it's possibe) then. Something like this. What do you think, a good strategie? Who should I use as starter in this lineup then? Are there gonna be abilities in PU?

Steelix : wall (def, special def) ability: sturdy
Moves steelix: dragon breath, stone edge, iron tail, explosion

Lucario: sweeper (special attack, attack) ability: inner focus
Moves: dark pulse, close combat, aura sphere, dragon pulse

Scizor: physical sweeper (attack, speed) ability: swarm
Moves: x-scissor, iron head, night slash, swords dance

Empoleon: special sweeper (speed, special attack) ability: torrent
Moves: surf, grass knot, ice beam, flash cannon

Metagross: allround (attack, defence) ability: clear body
Moves: meteor mash, magnet rise, psychic, giga impact

Magnezone: allround (special attack, special def) ability: sturdy
Moves: mirror shot, zap cannon, lock on, mirror coat
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Re: 17 trainers
« Reply #209 on: November 12, 2010, 01:54:43 PM »
There is gonna be a talent tree or something, right? I was thinking of improving some necessary skills (if it's possibe) then. Something like this. What do you think, a good strategie? Who should I use as starter in this lineup then? Are there gonna be abilities in PU?

Steelix : wall (def, special def) ability: sturdy
Moves steelix: dragon breath, stone edge, iron tail, explosion

Lucario: sweeper (special attack, attack) ability: inner focus
Moves: dark pulse, close combat, aura sphere, dragon pulse

*Scizor: physical sweeper* (attack, speed) ability: swarm
Moves: x-scissor, iron head, night slash, swords dance

*Empoleon: special sweeper* (speed, special attack) ability: torrent
Moves: surf, grass knot, ice beam, flash cannon

Metagross: allround (attack, defence) ability: clear body
Moves: meteor mash, magnet rise, psychic, giga impact

*Magnezone: allround* (special attack, special def) (sturdy)
Moves: mirror shot, zap cannon, lock on, mirror coat

The most effective  lead out of your pokemon that doesnt use stealth rocks would be Lucario. If you want to run him as a lead and need a sweeper to replace i would recommend metagross but thats another story.

As for Lucario lead, use this setup:
Close Combat
Extreme Speed
Crunch
Counter/Agility/Swords Dance
Item: Focus Sash

This lead is effective because due to Lucario's ability, ( which PU will have) he can not be flinched out of his focus sash. Because of this u could either run the agility or Swords Dance set up and get a free one off everytime. If you dont want to do that you could run Counter and that is very very effective in taking out bulky leads. The other moves are there to cover all the basic leads that would stop this. This setup is pretty effective, trust me.

As for your metagross, I currently have a metagross that runs the Agiligross setup, and he is always able to KO 2 or more pokemon every match if i get him set up right. If u want to see agiligross to ask me