The Team Rating Thread

[PkMn Trainer Black]

Nitori (Vaporeon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 255 HP / 255 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Aqua Ring
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam

Marisa (Jolteon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 255 HP / 255 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Charge Beam
- Discharge
- Shock Wave
- Thunderbolt

Mokou (Flareon) (M) @ Charcoal
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Heat Wave
- Flamethrower
- Lava Plume
- Hyper Beam

Rumia (Umbreon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 255 Def / 255 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Yawn
- Dark Pulse
- Hyper Beam
- Moonlight

Yukari (Espeon) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 SDef
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic
- Morning Sun

Yuka (Leafeon) (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Leaf Guard
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Atk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Leaf Blade
- Synthesis
- Sunny Day

This is my Revised Eeveelution team
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my foreseen judgement for type coverage;

vaporeon- Good moveset since it can't (unfortunetly) learn EP

jolteon- to many Stab moves. SW is more than likely a must in case you encounter 'evaders'. you might also want to switch out discharge for HP(water) for type coverage along with canging the nature to timid for safety reasons(Aerodactyl with EQ) and use this EV spread instead(4 HP/252 SpA/ 252 Spd). Switch out the leftovers for the berry that weakens ground moves instead.

Flareon- again, too many stab moves. you could give it quick attack or Giga impact as a last resort for lava plume, assuming that you're single battling. you could also give it superpower in place of heat wave fot type coverage and since it's his best base stat.

umbreon- switch hyper beam for confuse ray. that's it.

Espeon- switch the Life orb for the wise glasses to lose the recoil and change the nature to timid.

Leafeon- we already discussed this one, so leave as is.

[LeoReborn]

Flareon has Hyper Beam instead of Giga Impact, because its SpAtk is Higher than its Atk.

Jolteon has Discharge, Specifically for Double/Triple Battles.

If I'm changing Jolteon and Flareon, I'll give them Metronomes, because I end up using Heat Wave and Thunderbolt often.

 Espeon has a very high SpAtk, but a low Spd, So, I'll give it either a Wise Glasses, or Quick Claw

Vaporeon has Signal beam, for dealing with those pesky Psychics.

Umbreon.... I thought Hyper Beam was a good Idea, but there isn't much use for it in Umby...

I think it can learn Substitute, so with its High Def, SpDef, and Leftovers, It becomes more of a wall. Synchronize also helps in case of Toxic-spams.

[PkMn Trainer Black]

Wait a minute, Isn't signal beam's power 60?

flareon-I know that. I was just pointing out that Atk was its best base stat

Espeon- are you talking about your Espeon, because it is the 2nd fastest eeveelution.

Umbreon-sorry, but the only ways HB is stronger than DP is by facing a Fighting and/or Dark type. but Sub is good too as long as it is used right after yawn. I'm using the online dex to help because my strategies are limited by not having BW and being stuck on Diamond, making me a lone wolf. I used to have someone in school to help me with them, but he's moving and i don't have internet that is acceptable to my DSL.

[Raikt]

Just to clarify some misinformation here.

Flareon has Hyper Beam instead of Giga Impact, because its SpAtk is Higher than its Atk.

Flareon's Atk stat is much higher than its SpAtk. Atk is sitting at a fantastic base 130 while SpAtk dwindles at 95.

Espeon has a very high SpAtk, but a low Spd, So, I'll give it either a Wise Glasses, or Quick Claw

Espeon's speed is anything but slow. It has a whopping 110 base in Speed. That is faster than most Pokemon and makes it the second fastest Eeveelution. Only Jolteon is faster.

Vaporeon has Signal beam, for dealing with those pesky Psychics.

Signal Beam has 75 BP. That means it has 150 versus Psychics. Not a slouch move in the slightest. However, Surf has 95 BP. After factoring in STAB, it becomes 143. So, you would have 7 less points of BP for the chance of hitting more than one Pokemon.

(I mention this because you mentioned double and triple battles earlier.)

Umbreon.... I thought Hyper Beam was a good Idea, but there isn't much use for it in Umby...

Umbreon's SpAtk stat is horrid. His physical Atk stat is mediocre. That's why he is generally used as a wall. Or a tank if you run his Curse set. It's also possible to drop a few points into Atk and give him Payback for some pretty reliable damage.

[LeoReborn]

Rumia (Umbreon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 Def / 6 SAtk / 252 SDef
Bashful Nature
- Yawn
- Dark Pulse
- Substitute
- Moonlight

Marisa (Jolteon) (M) @ Metronome
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 255 HP / 255 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Charge Beam
- Discharge
- Shock Wave
- Thunderbolt

Mokou (Flareon) (M) @ Metronome
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Dig
- Giga Impact
- Retaliate
- Fire Fang

Nitori (Vaporeon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Aqua Ring
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam

Yukari (Espeon) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 6 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic
- Morning Sun

Yuka (Leafeon) (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Atk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Leaf Blade
- Synthesis
- Sunny Day


I took your advice and tweaked my team a little.
Also, Signal Beam is a 75 Power- Bug Move.
Bug>Psychic


Another team I've been working on.

Golem (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Double-Edge
- Gyro Ball

Arcanine (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- ExtremeSpeed
- Flare Blitz
- Aerial Ace
- Snarl

Raichu (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Volt Tackle
- Magnet Rise
- Toxic
- Charge

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Nightmare
- Dream Eater
- Hypnosis
- Substitute

Dragonite (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Muk (M) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Poison Touch
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Acid Spray
- Flamethrower
- Focus Blast
- Sludge Wave

[PkMn Trainer Black]

Couple team!

Gallade-jolly                                                             Gardevoir-Naughty
252 Atk & SpDef, 4 Spd                                             252 SpA & SpDef, 4 HP

-Sword Dance                                                            Calm mind
-Night Slash                                                               Hypnosis
-Leaf Blade                                                                Captivate
-Psycho Cut                                                                Thunderbolt

Arcanine-Amandant                                                     Ninetails-Modest
252 Atk & Spd, 4 Def                                                   252 SpA & Spd, 4 SpDef
-Iron Tail                                                                    Flamethrower
-Flare Blitz                                                                  Nasty Plot
-Thunder Fang                                                            Hypnosis
-Extreme speed                                                          Confuse Ray

Gyarados-Adamant                                                    Milotic-Modest(Flame Orb)
252 Atk & Spd, 4 Def                                                 252 SpA & HP, 4 SpDef
-Ice Fang                                                                  Ice Beam
-Waterfall                                                                 Surf
-Dragon Dance                                                          Hypnosis
-Earthquake                                                             Recover









Sandstorm team

Tyranitar (M) @ Health Wing
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 116 Def / 136 SDef / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Rock Slide
- ThunderPunch
- Crunch
- Dragon Dance

Bastiodon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 12 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Def / 116 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Iron Defense
- Toxic
- Torment
- Iron Head

Carracosta (M) @ Custap Berry
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 112 Atk / 132 SAtk / 252 SDef / 12 Spd
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Rock Polish
- Scald
- Iron Defense
- Rock Slide


Shuckle (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Toxic
- Double Team
- Power Split
- Protect

Aggron (M) @ (No Item)
Trait: Heavy Metal
EVs: 244 Atk / 16 Def / 248 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Heavy Slam/Iron Head
- Iron Defense
- Protect
- Sandstorm

Crustle (M) @ Sitrus Berry
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 48 Atk / 220 Def / 240 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Curse
- X-Scissor
- Protect
- Smack Down

[Wrathes]

Crustle @Leftovers
-curse
-x-scissor
-rest
-smack down
This should be used only when Toxic is on the field

TTR @Leftovers
-Taunt
-DD
-Tpunch
-Crunch

Aggron switch over to Clefairy
Clefairy @Lifeorb
Adamant
-Drain Punch
-Healing Wish
-Double-Edge
-Reflect/Light Screen

[PkMn Trainer Black]

I generally calld it Sandstorm team ecause it was actually my Mono Rock Team.


No commemt on my Couple team?

[Wrathes]

I generally calld it Sandstorm team ecause it was actually my Mono Rock Team.


No commemt on my Couple team?

Sorry... but I know what a Sandstream team is (aka SS=>Sandstorm). It's a mediocre SS team though... Not the MOST best I've seen before...

[deadae]

Rumia (Umbreon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 Def / 6 SAtk / 252 SDef
Bashful Nature
- Yawn
- Dark Pulse
- Substitute
- Moonlight

Marisa (Jolteon) (M) @ Metronome
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 255 HP / 255 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Charge Beam
- Discharge
- Shock Wave
- Thunderbolt

Mokou (Flareon) (M) @ Metronome
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Dig
- Giga Impact
- Retaliate
- Fire Fang

Nitori (Vaporeon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Aqua Ring
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam

Yukari (Espeon) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 6 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic
- Morning Sun

Yuka (Leafeon) (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Atk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Leaf Blade
- Synthesis
- Sunny Day


I took your advice and tweaked my team a little.
Also, Signal Beam is a 75 Power- Bug Move.
Bug>Psychic


Another team I've been working on.

Golem (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Double-Edge
- Gyro Ball

Arcanine (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- ExtremeSpeed
- Flare Blitz
- Aerial Ace
- Snarl

Raichu (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Volt Tackle
- Magnet Rise
- Toxic
- Charge

Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Nightmare
- Dream Eater
- Hypnosis
- Substitute

Dragonite (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Muk (M) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Poison Touch
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Acid Spray
- Flamethrower
- Focus Blast
- Sludge Wave

me personally i wouldnt use an umbreon without curse and assurance

[PkMn Trainer Black]

I'm guessing you're used to the curse set?

[Noah_Road]

Here is my revived psychic team.


Metagross @ Occa Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- ThunderPunch

Espeon (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Bounce
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature
- Psyshock
- Calm Mind
- Yawn
- Hidden Power [Fire]

Starmie @ Choice Specs
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Trick

Sigilyph (M) @ Flame Orb
Trait: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SAtk / 252 SDef
Bold Nature
- Cosmic Power
- Stored Power
- Roost
- Psycho Shift

Gallade (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut
- Shadow Sneak

Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Iron Head
- Zen Headbutt
- Fire Punch
- Drain Punch


My only threats with this team are scarfed Herracross and scrafed Krookodile if they are running the ability Moxie. I can handle them both if Jirachi is unharmed and can come in safely but Rachi can not survive a moxie boosted EQ from Krookodile or a moxie boosted Megahorn from cross so he must come in quickly to get rid of these threats. If steal rocks aren't up, Volcaronna can be a serious problem since it outspeeds my whole team after a single quiver dance. I'm still looking for a counter to this.

[PkMn Trainer Black]

what about Punishment(Sigylyph)?

[Noah_Road]

Sigilyph has no room or use for punishment. The Cosmic power + Stored power combo is essential for him being there and roost is needed for him to be an effective tank and wall. Psycho shift is to burn physical attackers making setting up on them easy (burn cuts the attack stat in half). 

[deadae]

I'm guessing you're used to the curse set?

yeah im not really sure what the curse set is but i problly wouldnt use umbreoen without curse and assurance for sure a return works excellent on umbreon as well