[GUILD] Elemental Elites

[GrizzlyEatsKids]

The confirmed list does not say anything about either of those pokemon yet, Humen. And Chad, no. I won't force you to use four pokemon on one team from just a single listing. There are many more pokemon to be announced.

[Humen]

So then there will be something involving them

[GrizzlyEatsKids]

Maybe, but maybe not. I might reveal another pokemon tomorrow.

EDIT: Well, it is tomorrow, so I'll reveal another pokemon. No moveset or item restrictions on either of these, or at least, none announced yet.

Reindeer: Stantler OR Winter Sawsbuck, you cannot use both. For the sake of Christmas spirit, it must also be male and named after one of the reindeer that pulls Santa's sleigh.

[Noah_Road]

Hey Roloc, it seems your calc were off after all. Just did some more calcs with Fire Blast (which I forgot to nerf) and came up with some different results.

124 Bold SpA Clefable Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Scizor: 316-376 (92.12 - 109.62%) -- 56.25% chance to OHKO - Bold vs Standard Mega Scizor (Guaranteed OHKO after 1 layers of Spikes)

124 Bold SpA Clefable Fire Blast vs. 8 HP / 242 SpD Scizor: 252-300 (89.67 - 106.76%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO - Bold vs Sp.Def Mega Scizor (Guaranteed OHKO after 2 layer of Spikes)

124+ Modest SpA Clefable Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 242 SpD Scizor: 280-332 (99.64 - 118.14%) -- 93.75% chance to OHKO - Modest vs Sp.Def Mega Scizor

124+ Modest SpA Clefable Fire Blast vs. 242 HP / 8 SpD Scizor: 344-408 (100.87 - 119.64%) -- guaranteed OHKO -Modest vs Standard Mega Scizor

And a Bullet Punch in Return:

252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 124 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 284-336 (78.45 - 92.81%) -- guaranteed 2HKO -Choice Band Scizor vs 124/252 (set I've been running)

252+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 124 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 164-194 (45.3 - 53.59%) -- 39.45% chance to 2HKO -252 Mega Scizor vs Clefable.....loss of Choice Band really hurts O.o

Point being, Roloc, you're definitely going to need to take advantage of the new Defog mechanics to keep Mega Scizor alive or instead us Mega Pinsir and keep a Choice Band set. Like many mega evolutions, the damage output is outclassed by the Life Orb or Choice variants. Its the same case with Mega Alakazam, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Gyarados.

Also, have you tried Scolipede yet? The added base Atk + Speed Boost is amazing!

[Chad29]

Do you think Gamefreak has figured some of these pokemon are such beasts offensively that they've decided to nerf attacks because of that? Or is it something else?

[Roloc]

Hey Roloc, it seems your calc were off after all.

Again, no they weren't. I think you must be misreading. Please take note of the EVs on mega scizor. Its a build by someone from smogon servers. He built it just right for surviving fire attacks from non-stab and non-boosted pokes. It is designed with flamethrower in mind since most people go for accuracy over power. Though it is still able to let scizor take a fire blast from a few pokes, clefable included among the few.

The calcs done were done using a mega scizor set from smogon and a standard clefable build (which is the set you said you were using a few pages back)

Here are the results of the damage calc:

Bulky scizor
EVS:
108 Atk
252 HP
150 SpDef

Clefable:
EVs:
252 Def
128 HP
128 SpAtk

128 SpA Clefable Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 150 SpD Scizor: 300-356 (87.2 - 103.48%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

108+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 128 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 193-228 (53.16 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

This is using 40 base power bullet punch and 110 base power fire blast.

Bulky Mega Scizor wins 75% of the time.

108 atk EVs and adamant nature lets scizor still 2HKO 128 HP / 252+Def Clefable every time. While the clefable only OHKO mega scizor 25% of the time with fire blast, not calculating in the huge miss chance for fire blast.

Now the HP and SpD EVs on mega scizor could be switched around to let it take the fire blast even better, but, scizor needs the 252 HP EVs for taking physical hits as well. Making mega scizor super easy to get off a SD and then slaughter with bullet punch. I have swept with this set soooo many times.  It's a very nice build that guy came up with.


I have had 0 problems keeping Mega scizor alive and I don't run defog. Don't see the need to. I do however run sticky web, and it is such an awesome entry hazard. Nothing better then making scarf pokes useless.

And yeah, I have played with the new scolipede. It's awesome. It actually might be better then the one we have here on PU. xD

252+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 124 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 164-194 (45.3 - 53.59%) -- 39.45% chance to 2HKO -252 Mega Scizor vs Clefable.....loss of Choice Band really hurts O.o

This calc is off by the way. This is the actual calc for that.

252+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 124 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 213-252 (58.83 - 69.61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I think you may be forgetting to change the base attack to 150 for mega scizor.

NinjaskEDIT:
Still waiting for the new update to PO. I think they must be doing a thorough job at removing bugs/errors from this next update. Which is good news.

Expect an update when PO releases the new build.

[GrizzlyEatsKids]

Ok, I have a new contest update of sorts. While I will wait to reveal new pokemon on the weekends, I can tell you all that there are at least two Fairy type pokemon on the list. Have fun speculating with that and whatnot.

[Roloc]

I know one at least.

Also it's the weekend. Time for that pokemon update! I are ready!

[GrizzlyEatsKids]

Welp, here's a new one for the contest:

Christmas Tree and Decorations: Abomasnow OR Torterra AND Sylveon OR Starmie, You must either choose Abomasnow or Torterra to represent your tree, and either Sylveon or Starmie to represent the decorations on star.

Also, Roloc, Gameboy Advanced has decided to join over PO. DO you mind adding him as a participant?

[Roloc]

Awesome, my team is coming together nicely. Starmie was a great addition.

EDIT:
Can't wait to start building my team, I think this event will require a good bit of skill.

[GrizzlyEatsKids]

For multiple reasons, I'll just go ahead and reveal the next pokemon for the contest today, instead of a day or two later on the weekend. There are still several pokemon left to be announced, as well as moveset, item, and possibly even ability limitations. And yes, Roloc, I think it'll require a bit more skill and thought than most of us first realized. It is a nice little change of pace from the normal battles on PO as it changes things up a bit. I would love to see even more people join.

Santa Clause: What is the Christmas to most people without the holiday's most famous mascot, Santa Clause? Similarly, your Christmas-themed team wouldn't be complete without a pokemon that resembles Santa. Because of this, EVERY participant is required to have either a Delibird or a Snorlax on their team.

As a final note, another pokemon may be announced for the contest this weekend in addition to this.

[Roloc]

Updated the first post. And yeah, it would be nice to get more people to join.

And yeah, it will take a good bit more skill. Being limited to certain pokemon /move sets / items / etc. is pretty heavy to work around. It'make you think and come up with the best you can with what you have at your disposal.

Maybe Bing, Shadowfred, Xhizor and some others will see it before it's too late to join in.

[The-Blades-slave]

Holy poopt looked at the first post. I'm an officer. When did that happen? ._.

[Roloc]

Wow, you even commented on it and now you forgot. Someone has some memory problems. xD

[The-Blades-slave]

I did...? ._.

I'm just going to... uh... proceed to dump all these pills down the sink... ._.