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Poffins
« on: February 06, 2010, 10:59:08 PM »
This is less of an idea and more of a question can you make poffins in PU for people that dont know what poffins are here is a poffin FAQ

                            POKéMON DIAMOND & PEARL


                           
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+---+  TABLE OF CONTENTS  +

   ----+  POFFIN INTRODUCTION
           + discusses important information about Poffins

   ----+  BERRIES
           + lists berries found in Sinnoh and their statistics

   ----+  POFFIN MAKING
           + provides information on how Poffin levels are calculated

   ----+  FEEBAS
           + describes the special case of attempting to evolve a Feebas

   ----+  CLOSING
           + contains vital copyright data and various concluding statements

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+---+  POFFIN INTRODUCTION  +

  Poffins are delicious baked treats that can be fed to Pokémon.

    ----+  OBTAINING THE POFFIN CASE

      You will not be able to make Poffins until you receive this Key Item.
    It can be obtained by talking to the president of the Pokémon Fan Club,
    found in Hearthome City.

    ----+  COOKING POFFINS

      In order to make Poffins, simply visit the Poffin House.  This is also
    found in Hearthome City.  Inside, speak to the woman standing next to the
    Poffin Cooker. This device allows you to cook Berries, which will then
    turn into a delicious Poffin.

    ----+  POFFIN REWARDS

      Feeding a Poffin to a Pokémon raises that Pokémon's happiness, and also
    improves that Pokémons Conditions. These Conditions are used in Super
    Contests during the Visual Round, and also can provide other rewards.

      In addition, one Pokémon requires a high Condition in order to evolve.
    Feebas needs 170 or more points in Beauty to evolve when it levels up.

      Finally, the Scarf Guy in Pastoria City will reward a Pokémon with 200
    or more
 points in a Condition with a special scarf, which provides a
    boost to that Condition's score in the Visual Round while it is held, as
    shown in the chart below.


        CONDITION    REWARD ITEM     ITEM'S DESCRIPTION

        +--------    +----------     +-----------------

        200 Cool     Red scarf       An item to be held by a Pokémon.
                                     It boosts the "Cool" aspect of the
                                     holder in a Contest.

        200 Beauty   Blue scarf      An item to be held by a Pokémon.
                                     It boosts the "Beauty" aspect of the
                                     holder in a Contest.

        200 Cute     Pink scarf      An item to be held by a Pokémon.
                                     It boosts the "Cute" aspect of the
                                     holder in a Contest.

        200 Smart    Green scarf     An item to be held by a Pokémon.
                                     It boosts the "Smart" aspect of the
                                     holder in a Contest.

        200 Tough    Yellow Scarf    An item to be held by a Pokémon.
                                     It boosts the "Tough" aspect of the
                                     holder in a Contest.


    ----+  COOKING TIPS

      The best way to make a good Poffin is to stir the mix quickly enough to
    finish as soon as possible - the faster the cooking, the better the Poffin
    that will result.

      However, it is important not to stir too quickly for fear of spilling -
    too many spills will negate any boost you'd receive for speed! Stir fast
    enough to keep the mix near to the edge of the Poffin Cooker.

      Poffins are cooked in three stages. The first stage has yellow flames
    and a light, easy-to-stir mixture. At this point, it is very important not
    to stir too quickly, as it is easy to spill.

      The second stage, when the flames turn reddish, the mixture becomes heavy
    and is more difficult to stir. It is important now to keep the mixture
    spinning, since if it rests still too much, it will burn and penalize you.

      When the flames turn blue and the mixture dark, the third and final stage
    has begun. This is the easiest stage, as the mix is hard and no longer
    spillable. Spin as quickly as you can, without worry.

      Otherwise, try cooking Poffins with friends using the local wireless
    function. With multiple people mixing and causing sparkles to appear, it
    can be possible to negate the penalties from spills or burns!

      Once your Poffin-cooking skills have improved, the only remaining
    improvement would be in the choice of berries used. Some berries are
    better than others, either due to the flavor values or smoothness.

    ----+  POFFIN FEEL

      An important aspect of Poffins are their Feel level. This is related to
    your Pokémon's Sheen. This value could be considered a "Fullness" value, as
    when your Pokémon's Sheen value is maximized, it no longer can eat Poffins.

      Basically, a Poffin's Feel level is put into the Pokémon's Sheen value.
    If the Sheen would become higher than 255, it is set to 255 and at that
    point, the Pokémon is full and can never again eat another Poffin.

      This aspect is so paramount to raising proper Super Contest Pokémon that
    sometimes, feeding a lower-level Poffin can be much more beneficial than
    feeding a high-level Poffin, if the Feel values are very different!

    ----+  NATURE AND PREFERENCES

      When a Pokémon eats a Poffin, it gains Condition based on the flavor
    levels of the Poffin. However, these gains in Condition are further changed
    by that Pokémon's preferences in taste, which are determined by its nature.

      When adding Condition from a flavor the Pokémon likes, the increase is
    10% more than usual, rounding down. When adding Condition from a flavor the
    Pokémon dislikes, the increase is 10% less than usual, rounding down.

      It doesn't matter if the Pokémon likes or dislikes the total flavor of
    the Poffin, just each individual flavor. Thus, a Pokémon that likes Spicy
    Poffins and dislikes Dry Poffins will still gain a +10% boost to Cool gain
    when eating a Spicy-Dry Poffin, and still receive the -10% penalty to its
    Beauty gain as well, even though it neither liked nor disliked the Poffin.

      The natures and their preferences are given below:

        NATURE     LIKES  DISLIKES

        +--------  +----  +-------
        Adamant    Spicy  Dry
        Brave      Spicy  Sweet
        Naughty    Spicy  Bitter
        Lonely     Spicy  Sour
        Modest     Dry    Spicy
        Quiet      Dry    Sweet
        Rash       Dry    Bitter
        Mild       Dry    Sour
        Timid      Sweet  Spicy
        Jolly      Sweet  Dry
        Naive      Sweet  Bitter
        Hasty      Sweet  Sour
        Calm       Bitter Spicy
        Careful    Bitter Dry
        Sassy      Bitter Sweet
        Gentle     Bitter Sour
        Bold       Sour   Spicy
        Impish     Sour   Dry
        Lax        Sour   Bitter
        Relaxed    Sour   Sweet
        Bashful    ---    ---
        Docile     ---    ---
        Hardy      ---    ---
        Quirky     ---    ---

      Four natures will eat anything, and thus receive no benefit nor penalty.

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+---+  BERRIES  +

                          FLAVOR VALUES
               SPICY    DRY      SWEET    BITTER   SOUR     FEEL    Grow  Base
    NO. BERRY  (COOL)   (BEAUTY) (CUTE)   (SMART)  (TOUGH)  (SHEEN) Time  Yield
    +-- +----  +-----   +------- +-----   +------  +------  +------ +---  +----
    #01 CHERI    10       0        0        0        0       25     
    #02 CHESTO    0      10        0        0        0       25     
    #03 PECHA     0       0       10        0        0       25     
    #04 RAWST     0       0        0       10        0       25     
    #05 ASPEAR    0       0        0        0        0       25     
    #06 LEPPA    10       0       10       10       10       20     
    #07 ORAN     10      10        0       10       10       20     
    #08 PERSIM   10      10       10        0       10       20     
    #09 LUM      10      10       10       10        0       20     
    #10 SITRUS    0      10       10       10       10       20     
    #11 FIGY     15       0        0        0        0       25     
    #12 WIKI      0      15        0        0        0       25     
    #13 MAGO      0       0       15        0        0       25     
    #14 AGUAV     0       0        0       15        0       25     
    #15 IAPAPA    0       0        0        0       15       25     
    #16 RAZZ     10      10        0        0        0       20     
    #17 BLUK      0      10       10        0        0       20     
    #18 NANAB     0       0       10       10        0       20     
    #19 WEPEAR    0       0        0       10       10       20     
    #20 PINAP    10       0        0        0       10       20     
    #21 POMEG    10       0       10       10        0       20     
    #22 KELPSY    0      10        0       10       10       20     
    #23 QUALOT   10       0       10        0       10       20     
    #24 HONDEW   10      10        0       10        0       20     
    #25 GREPA     0      10       10        0       10       20     
    #26 TAMATO   20      10        0        0        0       30     
    #27 CORNN     0      20       10        0        0       30     
    #28 MAGOST    0       0       20       10        0       30     
    #29 RABUTA    0       0        0       20       10       30     
    #30 NOMEL    10       0        0        0       20       30     
    #31 SPELON   30      10        0        0        0       35     
    #32 PAMTRE    0      30       10        0        0       35     
    #33 WATMEL    0       0       30       10        0       35     
    #34 DURIN     0       0        0       30       10       35     
    #35 BELUE    10       0        0        0       30       35     
    #36 OCCA     15       0       10        0        0       30     
    #37 PASSHO    0      15        0       10        0       30     
    #38 WACAN     0       0       15        0       10       30     
    #39 RINDO    10       0        0       15        0       30     
    #40 YACHE     0      10        0        0       15       30     
    #41 CHOPLE   15       0        0       10        0       30     
    #42 KEBIA     0      15        0        0       10       30     
    #43 SHUCA    10       0       15        0        0       30     
    #44 COBA      0      10        0       15        0       30     
    #45 PAYAPA    0       0       10        0       15       30     
    #46 TANGA    20       0        0        0       10       35     
    #47 CHARTI   10      20        0        0        0       35     
    #48 KASIB     0      10       20        0        0       35     
    #49 HABAN     0       0       10       20        0       35     
    #50 COLBUR    0       0        0       10       20       35     
    #51 BABIRI   25       0        0        0       10       35     
    #52 CHILAN   10      25        0        0        0       35     
    #53 LIECHI   30      10       30        0        0       40     
    #54 GANLON    0      30       10       30        0       40     
    #55 SALAC     0       0       30       10       30       40     
    #56 PETAY    30       0        0       30       10       40     
    #57 APICOT   10      30        0        0       30       40     
    #58 LANSAT   30      10       30       10       30       50     
    #59 STARF    30      10       30       10       30       50     
    #60 ENIGMA   40      10        0        0        0       60     
    #61 MICLE     0      40       10        0        0       60     
    #62 CUSTAP    0       0       40       10        0       60     
    #63 JABOCA    0       0        0       40       10       60     
    #64 ROWAP    10       0        0        0       40       60     

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+---+  POFFIN MAKING  +

    ----+  FLAVOR VALUES & FLAVOR LEVELS

      The first step in determining what kind of Poffin you will make is to
    calculate the flavor levels. These are calculated using the flavor values
    indicated on the berry chart.

      Any given flavor can be cancelled out by another, neutralizing its effect
    and resulting in a Poffin that does not have any of that flavor. Spiciness
    is neutralized by Dryness, for example.

      To calculate the flavor levels, use the following formulas:

        SPICY LEVEL  = SPICY VALUE  - DRY VALUE
        DRY LEVEL    = DRY VALUE    - SWEET VALUE
        SWEET LEVEL  = SWEET VALUE  - BITTER VALUE
        BITTER LEVEL = BITTER VALUE - SOUR VALUE
        SOUR LEVEL   = SOUR VALUE   - SPICY VALUE

      When using multiple berries in group cooking, add up all similar flavor
    values before performing the above calculations. For example, two different
    berries with Spicy Value of 10 and no Dry Value would have a resulting
    Spicy Level of 20.

      Now that you know the base flavor levels, you can begin calculating the
    resulting Poffin.

    ----+  SPEED

      The quicker you make your Poffin, the better the result. This is a
    multiplier that is applied to all flavors in the Poffin. For example, if
    you took exactly 40 seconds, the 150% multiplier would apply to each Poffin
    flavor. If the Spicy Level was 20 and the Sweet Level was 10, the result
    would be 30 Spicy and 15 Sweet.

      To calculate the new flavor level, use the following formula:

        NEW FLAVOR LEVEL = OLD FLAVOR LEVEL  *  ( 60 / TIME IN SECONDS )

      Note that the division becomes a percent, so it rounds to the nearest
    hundredth.  As an example, a time of 40:03 would give a result of ~1.498,
    which will round to 1.5 for a 150% boost.

    ----+  COOKS & NEGATIVE FLAVORS

      When cooking with a group or when mixing berries that result in negative
    flavor levels, a penalty is applied to the resulting Poffin levels.

      To calculate the flavor level after penalties, use the following formula:

        FLAVOR LEVEL = OLD FLAVOR LEVEL - min( # COOKS , # NEGATIVE FLAVORS )

      Basically, you will receive a penalty equal to the number of cooks or a
    penalty equal to the number of negative flavor levels, whichever happens
    to be greater.

      As an example, if you are cooking alone, you will receive a -1 penalty
    minimum, due to cooking with one chef. However, if you were to cook using
    a Pomeg berry, which results in two negative flavor levels (dry and sour),
    you would receive a -2 penalty instead.

    ----+  SPILLS & BURNS

      The last calculation to perform is to apply the penalties for spilling or
    burning the mixture.

      To determine the final flavor levels, use the following formula:

        FINAL FLAVOR LEVEL = OLD FLAVOR LEVEL - # BURNS & SPILLS

      Each burn and spill is a penalty of -1 to the resulting Poffin. At this
    point, if the Poffin has no flavor level above 0, the resulting Poffin is
    an unfortunate Foull Poffin, which has three flavors randomly at Level 2.

      Otherwise, the Poffin will be of a primary flavor as indicated by its
    highest flavor level, and may have a secondary flavor as well if it has a
    second flavor. In the event of a tie, the order is:
      Spicy, Dry, Sweet, Bitter, Sour

      For example, you could make a Spicy Poffin, or a Spicy-dry Poffin (which
    has both Spicy and Dry flavors), or a Dry-spicy Poffin (which has both
    Spicy and Dry flavors and has more Dry than Spicy).

      Some Poffins have three or more flavors, and these are given special
    names instead of simply describing the flavors. The only way to see which
    flavors these have is by looking at the highlighted circles when examining
    the Poffin in the Poffin Case, by feeding it to a Pokémon, or by having
    calculated the result out beforehand.

      The displayed level of a Poffin is the level of the highest flavor of the
    Poffin. Thus, a Poffin indicated as Level 19 would have at least one flavor
    at Level 19.  However, the other flavors, if any, may or may not be at 19.

    ----+  SMOOTHNESS & FEEL

      Finally, there is a way to determine a Poffin's resulting Feel.

      Simply average the Smoothness of all berries involved, rounding down, and
    then subtract a bonus equal to the number of cooks. Cooking alone means you
    lower the Smoothness of the berry you use by one in order to determine the
    Feel.

      Thus, if you were to cook a Cheri berry, it would result in 24 Feel, as
    the Cheri berry has 25 Smoothness, and you're cooking alone. If you cooked
    in a group, and the berries involved had 25, 30, and 50 Smoothness, the
    resulting Feel would be 32. The average Smoothness is 35, and cooking with
    three players reduces the result by three.

      In this way, the more players cooking Poffins, the better the resulting
    Poffin, since a lower Feel means a Pokémon can eat more.

    ----+  RUINING A POFFIN

      There are two ways to ruin a Poffin and create a Foul Poffin.

      If there are enough burns or spills to create a Poffin with no flavor
    level above 0, the resulting Poffin will be a Foul Poffin.

      Additionally, if making Poffins with multiple people and two of the same
    berries are used, the Poffin will again result in a Foul Poffin, no matter
    what the flavor levels would have been. Be sure to talk to your friends
    about which berries to use, to avoid Foul Poffins!

     Foul Poffins have three random flavors at Level 2.

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

+---+  FEEBAS  +

    ----+  OBTAINING FEEBAS

      Feebas can be captured in Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald by using a
    fishing rod while on Route 119. However, it is only ever available in
    eight of the water tiles, chosen randomly and rechosen whenever the Trendy
    Saying in Dewford changes.

      Since there are over 100 water tiles on the route, it is a requirement to
    be able to Surf (and preferably to use Waterfall) in order to fish on all
    the tiles. Feebas is only found when fishing, and appears about 50% of the
    time on the eight tiles it appears in, so it's easy to find once its hidden
    location is found.

      After catching it in the Advance games, it can be transferred using Pal
    Park into Pokémon Diamond and Pearl

      Feebas can also be found in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, in the underground
    lake at Mt. Coronet. While this lake is smaller than Route 119, Feebas is
    hiding in only five of its tiles. However, if players join the same Group
    as one another using local wireless, the Feebas tiles for all players will
    be the same. In this way, the search can be split up between a few people.

      Once Feebas has been obtained, it is another matter entirely to evolve it
    into the fabulous Milotic. Feebas truly is unique; not only does it have a
    unique method of encounter, but it also has a unique evolution method.

 


 

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Re: Poffins
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2010, 11:01:44 PM »
[23:00:16] <&Mr_Dark> http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,357
[23:00:19] <&Mr_Dark> AAAAAAARGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[23:00:25] <&Mr_Dark> tl;dr ultimate edition
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Re: Poffins
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2010, 11:02:41 PM »
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Re: Poffins
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2010, 11:02:50 PM »
ummm why is there a feebas tutorial attached?

can you say copy/paste?

also, i don't know about poffins, i say no, at least until contests are in placed, and i don't think they will be for a llllllooooooooooooonnnnnnnngggggggg time

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Re: Poffins
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2010, 11:04:43 PM »
well it was copy paste because it isnt my idea I just posted it for those that dont know what poffins are. now if you would be so kind as to answer my question will poffins be in PU

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Re: Poffins
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2010, 11:47:15 PM »
well it was copy paste because it isnt my idea I just posted it for those that dont know what poffins are.

Wouldn't it have been easier to link the site that you got it from?

now if you would be so kind as to answer my question will poffins be in PU

also, i don't know about poffins, i say no, at least until contests are in placed, and i don't think they will be for a llllllooooooooooooonnnnnnnngggggggg time

I think spirit gave a reasonable answer.
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Re: Poffins
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2010, 02:23:15 AM »
yes spirit had the best response and I didn't post it right ether o-well way to go spirit

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Re: Poffins
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2010, 03:26:43 PM »
i agree it is copy and paste and on top of that i never really liked poffins
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Re: Poffins
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2010, 05:42:18 PM »
i only used poffins on feebas to get milotic ;D
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Re: Poffins
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 03:05:44 PM »
Well, I did some pokemon contests but I never really bothered to find the mechanics behind poffin making... So thanks in a way.

Until contests are implemented in the game, poffins won't have any use.

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Re: Poffins
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010, 08:26:36 PM »
There's probably a much easier alternatives to poffins if contests were to ever be implemented. Poffins are trouble.