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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #30 on: October 14, 2010, 11:20:18 PM »
lol try it and see dude then come back with ur head down and mouth shut nidoking would survive the earthquake i garuntee it
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sry i din't think it was mean but it was disrespectful i am sry. but i felt the same way when they just sat there and said a flygon could beat a nidoking that has an ice atk... ill try to be nicer tho i was wrong
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2010, 11:56:02 PM »
Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
and ur making the mistake of comparing flygon to ice types i mean ur right he can destroy most ice types if u ask me but another type of pokemon with an ice type move is what i would fear if i were u like a nidoking ... i don't care what attack flygon does he is not going to ko nidoking in one hit...so then an ice puch or ice beam and flygon is history. and nidoking is just one of many examples

Nidoking is part Poison and weak to Ground Attacks. Flygon is faster than Nidoking. He can easily OHKO Nidoking with an Earthquake.
really...try it and see dude.nidoking would survive the earthquake i garuntee he will have between 70-30 hp left....for one a nidoking can't ko a nidoking in one earthquake actually very few can.... so if nidoking can't do it what makes u think flygon can...? here these may help u:


nidoking- HP 366 SPA 269 ATK 283 SPCLD 249
FLYGON- SPA 259 ATK 299

Earthquake

Base Power
100
Accuracy
100
Move Type

Move Class
Physical
PP
10 (max. 16)Target
A random target (other than the user)
Priority
Normal
Other Conditions
OActivates King's Rock
OAcc.% Lowered by BrightPowder
XAffected by Snatch
XAffected by Magic Coat
OStopped by Protect or Detect
XIs a Direct Attack

oh and is that better frenchfry?

I am utterly confused by this post.

And a Flygon would be able to OHKO a nidoking with earthquake because he gains STAB from it

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2010, 02:01:51 AM »
So in other words, flygon is very strong and probably can OHKO a nidoking with earthquake. I really like that is has high Speed and both high Sp. Attack and Attack.

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2010, 04:25:03 PM »
So in other words, flygon is very strong and probably can OHKO a nidoking with earthquake. I really like that is has high Speed and both high Sp. Attack and Attack.
im telling u he won't ko him with any of his moves unless he has some super powerful move i don't know about or gets a crit he can't ohko nidoking and then nidoking is gonna turn around and ohko him
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2010, 07:13:37 PM »
Sure it can.

Damage = (((42 x AttackStat x AttackPower / DefenseStat) / 50) + 2) x STAB x Weakness/Resistance

Nidoking (Def boosting stat)
HP : 366
Def : 278
Spd : 269

Flygon (Atk boosting stat)
Atk : 328
Spd : 299

Earthquake: Pow 100; Acc: 100

Damage = (((42 x 329 x 100/278) / 50) + 2) x 1.5 x 2 = 304

Now, with a Life Orb;

Damage = 304 x 1.5 = 456

HP Left = 366 - 456 = -90

Oh noes! It owes HP! :o
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2010, 08:01:51 PM »
328 Atk vs 190 Def & 303 HP (100 Base Power): 372 - 440 (122.77% - 145.21%)

It's a guaranteed OHKO, even if Flygon hits the bottom portion of the RNG and deals as little damage as possible.
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2010, 04:37:04 PM »
my nido king has survived a psychic from mewtwo so and it aint never actually no nidoking i've ever had has been ohkd so read the stats all u want to when u do it its different
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2010, 04:40:43 PM »
Heh, the Mewtwo you battled was certainly underpowered.
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2010, 04:53:14 PM »
328 Atk vs 190 Def & 303 HP (100 Base Power): 372 - 440 (122.77% - 145.21%)

It's a guaranteed OHKO, even if Flygon hits the bottom portion of the RNG and deals as little damage as possible.
nidoking dont have 190 def?....and i don't even see how u added in def in any of this any way i won't beleive it till i see it and i've seen him survive stronger attacks frome stronger opponents but i haven seen flygon vs nidoking even on youtube so... its very hard for me to believe cuz i've had both lvl100 and nidoking is way more reliable than flygon he always ko's any1 he is up against
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2010, 06:14:28 PM »
Are we still arguing about this? can't someone just so something in shoddy battle, and prove this already?
Its not that hard...
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2010, 06:48:27 PM »
I dont think daedae understands how to do shoddy battle, but if any1 is up to it i can make a flygon and fraps the video of me destroying a nidoking

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2010, 07:49:41 PM »
Heh, the Mewtwo you battled was certainly underpowered.
the one from pokemon stadium....all it takes is my nidoking to get hit by psychic then use earthquake then throw out my persian and slash then the mewtwo is destroyed
yes please do the shoddy battle make sure nidoking gets ice beam  and deck him for me :)
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2010, 07:53:36 PM »
That only shows that the Mewtwo is weak and cannot even attack three times within those 3 turns...

Turn 1:
Mewtwo uses Psychic
Nidoking uses Earthquake

Turn 2:
Mewtwo idles
Nidoking is switched to Persian

Turn 3:
Persian attacks first and KOs Mewtwo

A weak Mewtwo indeed...
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2010, 08:49:25 PM »
That only shows that the Mewtwo is weak and cannot even attack three times within those 3 turns...

Turn 1:
Mewtwo uses Psychic
Nidoking uses Earthquake

Turn 2:
Mewtwo does a little dance
Nidoking is switched to Persian

Turn 3:
Persian attacks first and KOs Mewtwo

A weak Mewtwo indeed...

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2010, 08:56:41 PM »
maybe it was a weak mewtwo but why would they make u have to do all that stuff just to unlock a 6 vs 1 fight on a weak mewtwo? i just think i had a strong nidoking and a fast persian
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