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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2011, 04:54:34 PM »
Yes, you raved about this yesterday to me rob. I see it being used for a lot of pranks as well. Imagine making a clone of yourself that disapears or disguising yourself to look like someone, or something else. rob even said, the technology is there. Plus, vocaloid seems to have become the base to really test this in the public (Japan) since the characters in vocaloid are recognizable.
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« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2011, 05:21:20 PM »
Rob is right, this technology can be used for anything. It'd be really cool to see stuff like that!

But Cortex brings up a good point, it also has serious consequences if used the wrong way.

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« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2011, 06:25:10 PM »
Rob is right, this technology can be used for anything. It'd be really cool to see stuff like that!

But Cortex brings up a good point, it also has serious consequences if used the wrong way.

So far, the "tests" as Cortex puts it have been going well, even in the U.S, which has vary little knowledge of what is going on has had those sold out concerts. Things like 3D Tv's and 3ds's are becoming popular here as well, so it would naturally be assumed that this could lead to Holographic television and game play.

As far as "bad uses", This is just the commercialized stuff, I am sure that military applications are already in the works. There is a good and bad side to everything

Nuclear power-Nuclear bomb
Surgical lazer- Lazer weapons
Fireworks - missiles
television - subliminal messaging

While I don't know about the "disguise yourself with a hologram" bit, I know that they have been advancing the technology for several years now, I would not be surprised in the least if we go full Startreck in the next decade.




My only concern is that for the first time in a long time, America is the one that's behind the eight ball, Japan is at least a decade ahead of us technologically speaking, and they are only developing faster.

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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2011, 10:53:10 PM »
I'd love to see the yu-gi-oh game being like the game on the TV, but about consenquences...

Robots+Voice Synthesiser+Lazers+Artificial Intellegence= Terminator dude. Terminator.
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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2011, 10:59:07 PM »
Ever heard of the three laws of robotics?

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2011, 11:06:26 PM »
Yeah but what if something goes wrong in the programming?
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« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2011, 11:10:40 PM »
A kill switch. Transmitted on a frequency they receive their updates and other orders on commanding ,or forcing, them to dissemble.

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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2011, 11:48:02 PM »
That's only in the movies. We can make AI but it's not perfect, so don't count on a robot having rational thought.
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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2011, 01:15:58 AM »
Yeah, but you know what's be kinda cool? A computer you could socialise with, but then again, it'd probably talk back at you XD. I think we're getting a bit off topic anyway. To get back on topic lets talk about a newer version of Vocaloid. Its somethign called an append version, aparrently its supposed to make vocaloid sound realistic, and so far its working. heres an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Ki6e-O_8Y

As you can see, the Vocaloids are improving exceptionaly.
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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2011, 01:38:23 AM »
It sounds good, but it could use a little work.

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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2011, 02:47:47 AM »
Yeah, but you know what's be kinda cool? A computer you could socialise with, but then again, it'd probably talk back at you XD. I think we're getting a bit off topic anyway. To get back on topic lets talk about a newer version of Vocaloid. Its somethign called an append version, aparrently its supposed to make vocaloid sound realistic, and so far its working. heres an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3Ki6e-O_8Y

As you can see, the Vocaloids are improving exceptionaly.

I agree, the latest vocaloid models are coming along really well, their voices are so expressive


Kaito singing Last Night Good Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KSQhq4-DW0

Kagamine Len and Miku Hatsune singing Glow
Miku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwJ_tkgxOds
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Haruka singing Saihate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKyDej-t2sI

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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2011, 04:12:04 AM »
In the latest Versions of Vocaloid there are different versions of each voice. These versions are designed to show different emotions in the lyrics, this way the voice could fit the song they sing, or maybe at a new layer to the lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6GykEQOMC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRLD2ivagyk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H3J5ybQjSE&feature=related

they still need work and well versed users, but they are getting there

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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2011, 04:37:54 PM »
Ever heard of the three laws of robotics?

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

I tell robot not to listen to anyone but me.
I tell robot to capture everyone and lock them in a spaceship that robot will need to make.
I press switch and humans sent in space where they drift forever.

None of those laws prevent the robot to do that, but yet... anyone could do those. Are the people harmed in any way? No, they are in a spaceship with the minimum they need to survive. As crazy as it seems, it could happen. :P
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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2011, 06:33:25 PM »
Ever heard of the three laws of robotics?

1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

I tell robot not to listen to anyone but me.
I tell robot to capture everyone and lock them in a spaceship that robot will need to make.
I press switch and humans sent in space where they drift forever.

None of those laws prevent the robot to do that, but yet... anyone could do those. Are the people harmed in any way? No, they are in a spaceship with the minimum they need to survive. As crazy as it seems, it could happen. :P

Why is everyone scared of robots, we are more likely going to kill each other than a robot doing it for us. Vocaloid is Art, not a weapon.

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Re: VOCALOID
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2011, 07:32:54 PM »
Nah, was just stating that there was no need for even hackers to get involved :P

Because after all, it's the human controlling the robot who does the 'nasty' stuff.
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